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Thunderhill Lap: BMW E30 M3 vs 190E 2.3-16 - Hagerty ICONS with Jason Cammisa - Randy Pobst BONUS!
Randy Pobst

Randy Franklin Pobst, known as "RFP" or "The Rocket," is an American professional racing driver and automotive journalist with more than 90 professional wins across multiple racing series. As Motor Trend magazine's primary test driver, Pobst has become America's answer to Europe's test driver legends, setting track records and providing authoritative performance evaluations for over two decades. With 114 recorded laps across 94 vehicles on LapMeta, his data represents a comprehensive survey of modern performance car capabilities.

Pobst's racing pedigree is exceptional: he won the SCCA World Challenge GT championship in 2003, 2007, 2008, and 2010, captured the 1996 North American Touring Car Championship, and was vice-champion in SCCA World Challenge TC for 2005, 2006, and 2007. He is also a two-time class winner of the 24 Hours of Daytona (2001 and 2006). This extensive racing background provides him with the skill set necessary to extract maximum performance from any vehicle he tests.

His Motor Trend work focuses heavily on Virginia International Raceway, where he has recorded 62 laps on the Pre-2023 configuration and 27 on Big Willow. Pobst holds the production car lap record at VIR's Grand Course, set in the 2019 McLaren Senna—a time that no one, in any street or race car, has beaten. His notable achievements include lapping Laguna Seca in the 2016 Dodge Viper ACR in 1:28.65, faster than the Porsche 918 Spyder hybrid supercar, and breaking Road Atlanta's track record in the 2019 Corvette ZR1.

Beyond raw lap times, Pobst hosts "The Racing Line" on the MotorTrend YouTube channel, where he educates enthusiasts on racing fundamentals. His ability to communicate complex driving concepts in accessible terms, combined with his empirical lap time data, makes him invaluable to both manufacturers seeking validation and consumers making purchasing decisions. Randy Pobst represents the intersection of elite racing skill and journalistic integrity.

Location:
United States
Level:
Professional
Randy Pobst
Lap Date : 29 May, 2022 11:30 AM
1min 35.34sec
NOVICE
Thunderhill (West)
BMW E30 M3 2.3l
Stock
Published on 29 May, 2022

This is the raw laptime video you've been waiting for.

Both cars are bone stock:
1990 BMW M3 E30 (USA-specification), 2861 lb
1985 Mercedes 190E 2.3-16 (European specification), 2845 lb

Both cars are wearing brand-new Vredestein Sprint + tires in their original size, 205/55-15

Laps conducted back-to-back, same day, both driven by SCCA Hall of Fame driver Randy Pobst.

The E30's front shocks blew on track; the W201's ABS failed en route to the track. Such is the life of old cars. All else being even, Randy's prediction is that the cars would have been within a few tenths if both issues were fixed. 

Full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3EiY7sQWr4

RANDY POBST LAP TIMES at THUNDERHILL WEST (2-MILE)

1:21.51 2021 BMW M4 6-speed (G82)
1:22.12 2021 BMW M3 Competition (G80)
1:23.82 2017 Porsche 911 Carrera (991.2)
1:23.87 2016 BMW M3 Competition (F80)
1:23.89 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
1:25.38 2016 BMW M2
1:27.03 2006 BMW M3 ZCP (E46)
1:34.59 1985 Mercedes 190E 2.3-16
1:35.34 1990 BMW M3 (E30) 
1:40.85 2021 Kia Telluride

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